Food For Thought – Mk II

In 1984, why did Winston live at Victory Mansions?

Is ‘Sync’ just another layer of programming?

Did the creators of the video game Metal Gear Solid know something?


Post #68

Food for Thought – Mk II

Published 20-Nov-2019

i) Salzburg Gold’s latest 1984 piece

Salzburg Gold recently released the third edition of his outstanding podcast series reviewing 1984.

He is going through the book chapter by chapter, and inviting all of us to help him along the way.

Chapter 1 featured Daibpdaibp (available here).

Chapter 2 featured Daibpdaibp and Flyfisher (available here).

Chapter 3 saw me make my first appearance on the series (available here).

I encourage you to check out the series if you haven’t already, and also to consider joining SG for a chapter or two.

He is apparently recording the Call for Chapter 4
this Saturday, November 23, at 7pm US Central Time.

I believe this is 8pm Saturday New York | 1am Sunday London | 8am Sunday Hanoi | midday Sunday Melbourne |

The format SG is employing for the series is excellent: by going through the book chapter by chapter, all a guest needs to do is read about 10 or 15 minutes worth of 1984 prior to each Call.

It also means that when the series is complete, a new listener will be able to ‘binge listen’ to the entire series from start to finish, which will make it a lot easier to promote the series far and wide (which is exactly what I intend to do, by the Power of Honk, praise Kek).


ii) Daibpdaibp critiques Sync

It was only a matter of time until our resident ex-monk revealed himself to be a Sync heretic.

Thrice8Hermes: The Third Layer of Programming

This blasphemy against Brother Kotze is enough to warrant excommunication from the Sync-cult building here at Johnlebon.com…

…or is it?

Perhaps DD offers some valid points well worth consideration.

Perhaps ‘Sync’ is indeed a pathway to yet another level of programming.

Perhaps Brother Kotze is the Pied Piper of Sync and JLB is an unwitting dupe who has spent almost three years of his life — and counting — on a fool’s errand…

I plan to type up a response to DD in the coming days, and if you take the time to watch his video for yourself, I encourage you to consider leaving a thumbs down on his video posting your own comment here and/or in the comments section on Youtube.

Myself and a few other Members of the site are pretty into Sync (if I can put it that way), but there are also plenty of Members here who find the topic/field uninteresting — and potentially even distracting.

In fact, due at least in part to the Jewish / Kabbalistic / occult / drug-related influences which have played a large role in the development of the Sync subculture, some people even view Sync with a degree of suspicion and trepidation.

For these reasons and more, I for one am glad to see a Member of this site producing a less-than-glowing critique of Sync, and hope that this will help spur a more circumspect conversation about the topic here at johnlebon.com

Otherwise, we can always boot the blasphemer. As Sister Greta would ask, ‘how dare he!?’


iii) Metal Gear Solid

A new Member recently joined the site and responded to my Welcome email.

Until I get his permission to publish his username I’ll refer to him as Solid Snake.

I always ask people how they arrived here at the home of skepticism, and this was SS‘ explanation:

I had my start in this after following closely along with the video game series – Metal Gear Solid and it’s director Hideo Kojima. There were a lot of connections in that series that got me to begin thinking in new ways and enjoy diving into stories like I had not done so previously.

I eventually ended up in a community following the video game Death Stranding and the connections to our reality were a bit uncanny. Eventually I was presented your info via reddit and I guess that brings me here today.

I was interested to hear more, so I replied with an email asking if SS could elaborate.

You see, I remembered watching a video about the philosophical content in Metal Gear Solid some time ago.

It was one of a countless number of rabbit trails I had never gotten around to revisiting — until now.

This is what SS sent next:

To keep it a bit short & sweet there was a cut scene that appears near the ending of the game Metal Gear Solid 2 which is linked here [see below]

At this point in the game, you’ve found out that the folks who have been instructing you (your character) on your mission are essentially an AI network that was constructed using your own memories to create a model of convincing you that you are the “perfect soldier”. I didn’t really understand this when I first played the game as a child but revisiting it a few years back really sent me down the rabbit hole.

I found that the director Hideo Kojima pulled a lot of influences from movies that had a lot to do with double meanings and conspiracies such as 1984. I think what he accomplished in that game series was to ask the player weather or not they even have control of anything in a video game and in a sense, are we aware of who we are playing, or who is playing us? Lot of 4th wall breaking material spread out over 9+ titles.

It’s a bit silly but well worth a dive if you want something new/fresh inspiration I would encourage you to look into the Metal Gear Solid Movie series on youtube. There is so much under the hood and still to this day not entirely agreed upon with the community regarding details of characters & story.

The video SS referred to is the one embedded below.

Before you watch it, here is some context:

*This clip plays when the player reaches a certain stage in the game.

*The dude on the left is a computer character, the dude on the right is the player’s character.

*This is a game which was published in November, 2001.

Youtube: Colonel JD AI Codec Conversation MGS2 HD

Given the general age profile of the Membership of this site, I suspect that Metal Gear Solid is probably not something a lot of people here are familiar with.

In fact I would imagine the very notion that a video game can be philosophical is something which will come as a bit of a surprise to some folk.

I myself am not a gamer and although I had friends who were big into MGS when I was a kid, I wasn’t aware of the above clip until I heard about it perhaps a year or so ago.

I’ve got so much I want to say about all of this, but suffice for now to limit it to the following:

*Due to SS‘ email, I went back and looked for the original video which piqued my interest in this topic. It turned out to have been made by a guy called LogosSteve. His review of the clip is here.

*On the very same day I was reading and responding to SS‘ email, I had been doing my prep for the Matrix MDC that night. As part of that research I had stumbled upon this detailed review of The Matrix.

*Yes, that review of The Matrix was also made by LogosSteve, a guy with about 20 YouTube videos in total.

*You tell me: what are the odds of that?

*If I seemed a little bit loopier than normal on the Matrix Member Call, this may give you some insight into one of the several reasons why.

*Imagine spending a day prepping for a Call about The Matrix, feeling as though you are within some kind of Sync Game itself…

As they say in the classics, WATTBA.

Welcome SS to the site, and welcome all of the newer Members; hopefully more of them will share their own stories about how they got here, we’ve certainly taken many different paths…

In the meantime, if you found the MGS clip above interesting, or have anyhting else to say about video games, philosophy, and all things related, please share your thoughts in the comment section below and help get the discussion going ūüôā


See Also

Post #64 | Food for Thought (25-Oct-2019)


Post #68. Published 20-Nov-2019. 1,500 words. Available publicly.


 

7 thoughts on “Food For Thought – Mk II

  • 21-November-2019 at 6:32 pm
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    I wanted to offer a potential false dichotomy in the first Matrix film which I think is relevant to my two recent videos. I haven’t watched the Matrix sequel so I don’t know if they address it.

    After accepting Morpheus’s half of the red pill – blue pill dichotomy, there seems to be a further dichotomy: Neo vs Cypher. Remaining loyal to the truth, accept a grim life in the tiny minority separate from the unknowing masses; or betray truth and your fellow red pillers, return to the Matrix for a life pleasure and fame, whilst living in oblivion (forgetfulness).

    This seems to me, to be a subtle bit of programming which suggests that not to accept a life of isolation in the name of truth is a betrayal of your subgroup.

    The matrix has a plot set up where Cypher must betray Morpheus et al in order to return to the Matrix.

    In our world is it possible to have learned what there is to learn about the hoaxes of the system, to see the Matrix for what it is, to retain insights that one has gained, without having to live an isolated and grim life?

    That there is a solution to the Neo-Cypher Dichotomy.

    I suggest that this may be the solution to the third level of programming and that in this sense the levels of programming are not necessarily good or evil. It depends on how tightly one has bound themselves to each particular level, and if one is able to get the whole way through to the other side.

    Which is an illustration of some of the points I was trying to get across in my ‘[bound to the world]’1, video. That, in particular, the finer points of synchromysticism may bound us to this level of programming, or as in the case of Cypher (who stares at the fine detail of the Matrix all day) that it creates a desire to forget all that he has learned.

    Or perhaps I am just spouting the fourth level of programming.

    • 22-November-2019 at 8:15 am
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      Good points. Been watching all of your videos, one by one, today. Much food for thought. Thank you for sharing your perspective. #mikegpoetry

      • 22-November-2019 at 8:54 pm
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        Cheers Mikeg, As I publish a video I usually decide that I am wrong about certain things. This is why sometimes my later videos may seem contradictory to parts of earlier ones. As I start to understand my thinking, I realize where I disagree with myself.

        For a while, I had the idea of eventually trying to create a fully worked out a fully defined, non-contradictory system in the style of a Schopenhauer.

        But now I’m moving to more of a Nietzschean way. Somewhat because I can’t be arsed to do it, but in other parts I like the process of the development of my thought naturally, and I don’t mind so much if the way I use certain words alters slightly or even if on a certain level there may be some contradictions. I’m working with words and hence the map and so I think this okay. Different videos are sometimes about different maps and hence it may not be possible to have a fully developed, non-contradictory, tightly defined system.

        In the end, I get certain things out of creating them. The viewer gets certain things out of watching or listening to them.

        And I get something different out of watching them back later on then I did when I first made them.

        • 23-November-2019 at 4:41 am
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          It may be similar to my experience of reading a poem I wrote 30 years ago, 20 years ago, 10 years ago, 1 year ago, or last week. Who are these previous versions of me? I have certain (vivid?) memories of these previous versions of me, but in another sense they aren’t me at all. They are other(s). I awoke this morning for the one millionth (or 1st?) time to encounter the “reality” of experience . . . My philosophy is simple. I set the standard at “Greatness.” I do my best. I try to be kind. Cheers!

  • 24-November-2019 at 11:42 pm
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    Funny, MGS 2 was the only one of the series I played. I borrowed it from a friend after playing it with him and I remember it being quite the trip when I was 13. I even was able to ‚Äúgo back‚ÄĚ to that moment of first playing the game for myself (while reading this post) and the spooky, sinking feeling that came over me as the rabbit whole started to reveal itself. Although, I was a young buck at the time and had no idea about any conspiracy topics, this theme really resonated with me. The Matrix and The Truman Show already being some of my favorite films at the time. What is the nature of this reality, and can we improve our lives by forming a ‚Äúbetter‚ÄĚ or MORE accurate framework for understanding this reality?

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